In this interview from Yale's Creating Change through Social Entrepreneurship course, Camila Guiza-Chavez, Director of Impact and Mission at Havenly, a social enterprise supporting refugee and immigrant women, discusses how her organization approaches measuring community power and impact. The conversation explores the challenge of evaluating outcomes that go beyond simple metrics, such as economic independence, confidence, and social connection among the women Havenly serves. Guiza-Chavez shares how her team builds measurement practices that reflect the lived experience of participants rather than relying solely on conventional output counts. Students hear a practitioner's perspective on the difficulty and importance of impact measurement in organizations serving vulnerable populations, reinforcing the course's broader emphasis on evidence-based social entrepreneurship.